così gira il mondo chiude

[Andrea Spectra]

Un altro colpo duro per le soap perchè " così gira il mondo" nata nel 1956 chiuderà a giugno la sua produzione .A settembre ci sarà ultimo epiosidio.Le soap rimaste saranno 6 a questo punto si rischia molto anche per B&b prossimo al rinnovo del contratto perchè la cbs chiederà molti tagli

[Deaconbrid]

Cosa??????????
E io che avevo letto rumors che davano sicuro il rinnovo fino a tutto il 2010 almeno!

[Andrea Spectra]

annuncio fresco di giornata e il rinnovo di B&b è il prossimoanno nè vedremo delle belle quando la cbs pretende tagli e grossi guarda Y&R cosa è accaduto

[Deaconbrid]

Andrà in onda fino a inizio settembre se non sbaglio

fa un certo effetto vedere le soap americane passare da nove a sei nel giro di quanto, tre anni?

[a_a]

come come??? e tomtom??? uh :°(

[Deaconbrid]

come come??? e tomtom??? uh :°(

Non so fino a quando sarebbe comunque rimasto, comunque se rimarrà fino alla fine abbiamo ancora 10 mesi più o meno!

[a_a]

sì ma...tomtom :°(
voglio vannuzza per piangere sulle reZiproche spalle e farci patpat a viZenda

[0the0king]

èèèè??? Sono rimasto sconvolto!!
Nel giro di due anni la CBS è passata da 4 soap a 2!!
C'è da dire una cosa, però... Che mi auguro che, diminuendo il numero di soap, la gente possa affezionarsi di più a quelle rimaste, in modo che questa crisi dellae soap finisca!
Mi spiace anche per la povera Leslie Kay, a cui pare proprio che non gliene vada bene una!!

[Deaconbrid]

èèèè??? Sono rimasto sconvolto!!
Mi spiace anche per la povera Leslie Kay, a cui pare proprio che non gliene vada bene una!!

Per ora l'attrice avrebbe continuato a girare solo fino a Gennaio, presumibilmente per restare in scena fino a Febbraio-Marzo più o meno. Anche se le hanno proposto di restare più a lungo certo, ma sempre un impegno limitato per lei sarebbe rimasto!


Certo che per gli attori ingabbiati nel daytime sarà difficile in quanto diminuiscono le possibilità di lavoro. I più giovani almeno qualche episodio di serie tv ogni tanto se lo fanno e hanno tempo per provare a fare carriera in quelle produzioni, ma per i veterani è più difficile!

[val]

John McCook and Susan Flannery: John Paschal/JPI Studios


Are CBS's Last Two Soaps in Danger?
by Michael Logan December 14, 2009 05:21 PM EST


CBS’s recent decision to cancel Procter & Gamble's As the World Turns was bad enough, but then the network’s straight-shooting chairman Les Moonves gave soap fans an extra chill with his comments to The New York Times. “Is it the end of an era?” said Moonves of ATWT’s demise. “Sort of. Only the special soaps are going to survive. It’s certainly the end of the client-owned soap.” Here’s the concern: All of the soaps airing on CBS are client-owned, including the two created by the late Bill Bell. The Young and the Restless is co-owned by Sony and Corday Productions while The Bold and the Beautiful is owned by Bell-Phillip Television. Did the Big Eye boss misspeak? Or was this a not-so-subtle threat? TV Guide Magazine spoke with Brad Bell, exec producer of B&B, about Moonves’ bizarre statement.

Should we be worried about what Moonves said? What was your take on that?
I believe that he was specifically referring to the P&G shows when he said that. B&B just recently signed a two-year deal with CBS in October, so we have legs with the network. Y&R signed a similar deal around the same time.

So there’s no cause for concern? I hate to be paranoid here but a lot of us were creeped out by Moonves’ cold, cavalier attitude toward soaps in that CNBC interview he gave on the day of the cancellation. He’s just not showing the love.
I think we’re now down to the six soaps that will survive. For me there was no surprise that ATWT was cancelled. Their business model wasn’t working. I had [prior to the cancellation] spoken to people at P&G and they were very free with the information that they were losing money and they wanted to either find a way to make ATWT profitable or get out of the game. So they had to pull the plug and CBS had to pull the plug.

So you’re saying P&G wanted this?
P&G is a big company and they’re more focused on selling their products and less concerned about their shows. They certainly care about their fans…but it was time.

Any concerns that you’ll soon be part of a two-soap lineup on CBS? Could that affect ratings?
I’m not concerned. Days of Our Lives is standing alone on NBC and their recent numbers have been pretty good, so I think the two soaps can hold their own on CBS.

B&B is the most widely-watched soap on the planet. What, if anything, does that mean to CBS? Would it weigh in your favor if there were ever thoughts of cancellation?
Our status internationally means nothing to them. What’s important is our ability to sell to them at a deficit. That’s all that’s really important—CBS buying the show at the right price.

Which you’ve been able to do by cutting back your production costs—but how much more can you cut?
Oh, I think we can produce these shows even more economically than we are right now. In a way, we’re going full circle back to the 1950s where they were producing these soaps for next to nothing. We got very fat and happy in the ’80s and ’90s, doing five takes per scene, and going on all these lavish remotes. We couldn’t spend money fast enough. Now we’ve been tightening our belts a little bit but we still have a long way we can go.

What more can you do to slash the budget before it starts showing on air? From what I hear, your actors are now performing with next-to-no rehearsal, doing almost every scene in one take, and turning out more episodes in less days than ever before.
It might mean writing more scenes with fewer people—two-person scenes require much less time to stage and shoot—and we might be able to eliminate some of the sets. We can also expand our ways of doing the show. We shot much of Betty White’s final four-episode arc very inexpensively and on location at the beach, and it all came together wonderfully. Those episodes are right up there with the ones I’m most proud of. And let’s be honest, we still pay for certain things that are a little bit luxurious. We may need to do without them.

So there’s still a silver lining in all this rotten news?
If we’re to look at the positive, there are now hundreds of channels and soaps are still the top-rated shows in their timeslots. I look at the ratings for Mad Men—a show that has everybody talking—and they’re only pulling in a million viewers. You’ve got to be kidding me! Talk shows and game shows are so inexpensive to produce but we’re determined to challenge them and stay competitive with them. It’s not over yet for the Bell family. We plan to be in this business for many years to come.

[val]

John McCook and Susan Flannery: John Paschal/JPI Studios


Are CBS's Last Two Soaps in Danger?
by Michael Logan December 14, 2009 05:21 PM EST


CBS’s recent decision to cancel Procter & Gamble's As the World Turns was bad enough, but then the network’s straight-shooting chairman Les Moonves gave soap fans an extra chill with his comments to The New York Times. “Is it the end of an era?” said Moonves of ATWT’s demise. “Sort of. Only the special soaps are going to survive. It’s certainly the end of the client-owned soap.” Here’s the concern: All of the soaps airing on CBS are client-owned, including the two created by the late Bill Bell. The Young and the Restless is co-owned by Sony and Corday Productions while The Bold and the Beautiful is owned by Bell-Phillip Television. Did the Big Eye boss misspeak? Or was this a not-so-subtle threat? TV Guide Magazine spoke with Brad Bell, exec producer of B&B, about Moonves’ bizarre statement.

Should we be worried about what Moonves said? What was your take on that?
I believe that he was specifically referring to the P&G shows when he said that. B&B just recently signed a two-year deal with CBS in October, so we have legs with the network. Y&R signed a similar deal around the same time.

So there’s no cause for concern? I hate to be paranoid here but a lot of us were creeped out by Moonves’ cold, cavalier attitude toward soaps in that CNBC interview he gave on the day of the cancellation. He’s just not showing the love.
I think we’re now down to the six soaps that will survive. For me there was no surprise that ATWT was cancelled. Their business model wasn’t working. I had [prior to the cancellation] spoken to people at P&G and they were very free with the information that they were losing money and they wanted to either find a way to make ATWT profitable or get out of the game. So they had to pull the plug and CBS had to pull the plug.

So you’re saying P&G wanted this?
P&G is a big company and they’re more focused on selling their products and less concerned about their shows. They certainly care about their fans…but it was time.

Any concerns that you’ll soon be part of a two-soap lineup on CBS? Could that affect ratings?
I’m not concerned. Days of Our Lives is standing alone on NBC and their recent numbers have been pretty good, so I think the two soaps can hold their own on CBS.

B&B is the most widely-watched soap on the planet. What, if anything, does that mean to CBS? Would it weigh in your favor if there were ever thoughts of cancellation?
Our status internationally means nothing to them. What’s important is our ability to sell to them at a deficit. That’s all that’s really important—CBS buying the show at the right price.

Which you’ve been able to do by cutting back your production costs—but how much more can you cut?
Oh, I think we can produce these shows even more economically than we are right now. In a way, we’re going full circle back to the 1950s where they were producing these soaps for next to nothing. We got very fat and happy in the ’80s and ’90s, doing five takes per scene, and going on all these lavish remotes. We couldn’t spend money fast enough. Now we’ve been tightening our belts a little bit but we still have a long way we can go.

What more can you do to slash the budget before it starts showing on air? From what I hear, your actors are now performing with next-to-no rehearsal, doing almost every scene in one take, and turning out more episodes in less days than ever before.
It might mean writing more scenes with fewer people—two-person scenes require much less time to stage and shoot—and we might be able to eliminate some of the sets. We can also expand our ways of doing the show. We shot much of Betty White’s final four-episode arc very inexpensively and on location at the beach, and it all came together wonderfully. Those episodes are right up there with the ones I’m most proud of. And let’s be honest, we still pay for certain things that are a little bit luxurious. We may need to do without them.

So there’s still a silver lining in all this rotten news?
If we’re to look at the positive, there are now hundreds of channels and soaps are still the top-rated shows in their timeslots. I look at the ratings for Mad Men—a show that has everybody talking—and they’re only pulling in a million viewers. You’ve got to be kidding me! Talk shows and game shows are so inexpensive to produce but we’re determined to challenge them and stay competitive with them. It’s not over yet for the Bell family. We plan to be in this business for many years to come.

[Deaconbrid]

Grazie dell'intervista, l'avevo letta stamattina.
Dunque se non erro si limita a dire che per Beautiful non c'è da preoccuparsi per ora, che abbiamo ancora un contratto di due anni tanto per iniziare e che crede sia possibile produrre in modo più economico di quello che fanno ora!


Ps: sì, mai una volta che dica che bisogna concentrarsi sulla sceneggiatura oh!

[pony]

visto che non si concentrano sulla sceneggiatura,io da fan dico che sarebbe meglio che anche beautiful chiuda

[tittina]

ma no!